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    <title>Coders at work</title>
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    <author>nospam@example.com (Holger Schauer)</author>
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    For the holidays I finally bought Peter Seibels &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=696&amp;amp;entry_id=169&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://www.codersatwork.com/&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot; title=&quot;http://www.codersatwork.com/&quot;&gt;Coders at work&lt;/a&gt;, which is a very unusable book about programming: it consists solely of interviews with pretty well known programmers or &quot;coders&quot;. It&#039;s an interesting constellation: On the one hand, Peter Seibel is well known in the Common Lisp community for his book &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=697&amp;amp;entry_id=169&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot; title=&quot;http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/&quot;&gt;Practical Common Lisp&lt;/a&gt; which gives a modern view on Lisp: not only is it an introduction to the language but also to several libraries and the general setting of modern lisp programming. On the other (fifteen) hands, there are people like Jamie Zawinski (XEmacs, Netscape), Don Knuth (TeX, &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=698&amp;amp;entry_id=169&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/taocp.html&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot; title=&quot;http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/taocp.html&quot;&gt;Art of Computer Programming&lt;/a&gt;), Guy Steele (Lisp, Scheme, Java), Peter Norvig (&lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=699&amp;amp;entry_id=169&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://norvig.com/paip.html&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot; title=&quot;http://norvig.com/paip.html&quot;&gt;PAIP&lt;/a&gt;, Google), Brendan Eich (Javascript) and Ken Thompson (Unix)  -- just to note the ones that are probably the most well known.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve had resisted the urge to buy the book because I&#039;ve always felt that programming is a craft that ultimately forces you to make your own experiences. I mean, you can read all the books you like but ultimately you have to make your own hands dirty to really get knowledge about the issues involved. So, what could I learn from other peoples experiences? On the other hand, as a lightweight (in terms of reading attention) holiday book it seemed about right, so I finally gave in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, the book turned out to be a real page turner for me. It&#039;s a fascinating read because of the re-occuring topics Seibel is addressing and the various opinions he got. He addresses topics you would expect like preferred tools (e.g. editor), worst bugs, debugging techniques, asssertions and verification, literate programming (which suprises me a little), design approaches and team work, but of course the main focus is the personal experiences and how they wound up with whatever made these guys known. One thing that I liked is that Seibel has a way to ask good follow-up questions to the responses he gets, without ever letting his own experiences or opinions getting in the way, which I can imagine has probably made for pleasant interview situations (at least I take away that impression). I wouldn&#039;t have imagined beforehand that I would find the different stories how the guys (and one woman) got into coding so interesting. There are very few people in this book whose experience doesn&#039;t go back to teletype and time sharing systems. Of course, as a result these stories tend to be similar, but the details differ enough that&#039;s it doesn&#039;t get too boring. Starting with computers in the early 80s, I don&#039;t have any experiences with such systems and which I frankly don&#039;t miss at all after reading more about it. But just to get to this conclusion is interesting: the constant comparison with your own experiences and opinions you can&#039;t help but make while reading this book alone is worth buying and reading it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Over all, it&#039;s hard to say which interviews I found the most interesting one, essentially each has some unique point or other. That being said, the interviews with Joe Armstrong and Guy Steele made a lot of impresssion on me, whereas I&#039;m a little disappointed by the one with Peter Norvig (though he had the funniest quotes), but I can&#039;t really nail down why. I didn&#039;t particular like the interview with Brad Fitzpatrick, it didn&#039;t seem  to contain as much information as the others. And Joshua Bloch seemed to hype Java all the time which I found not very convincing -- the idea that todays larger context for programming contains quite a few different languages and approaches seems to elude him. &lt;br /&gt;
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There are some points I took away from this book: For one, most of the interviewed people seem to be much more concerned with data types than I am, even the ones who have done extensiv work on dynamically or weakly typed languages. I guess I should really take a closer look at that topic and, to make it more concrete, play around with e.g. Haskell. Another point is that concurrency or parallel programming is a topic that (IIRC) all of the interviewees have seen as being responsible for the worst bugs they encountered and as a result are interested in newer approaches like &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=700&amp;amp;entry_id=169&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_transactional_memory&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot; title=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_transactional_memory&quot;&gt;STM&lt;/a&gt;. So, it might be worthwhile to look closer into such developments, for example by playing with &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=701&amp;amp;entry_id=169&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://clojure.org/&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot; title=&quot;http://clojure.org/&quot;&gt;Clojure&lt;/a&gt;, Erlang. or the transaction monad, if I&#039;ll ever really play around with Haskell. A third point is that I realized that I&#039;m not keeping up with academic research in CS and, not having TAoCP, might never have been up to date at all. I&#039;m following a few online references like &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=702&amp;amp;entry_id=169&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot; title=&quot;http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/&quot;&gt;LtU&lt;/a&gt;, but not closely and it&#039;s pretty rare these days that I look deeply into some research paper. This is something else I should probably change, if time permits.&lt;br /&gt;
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    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:38:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    <title>Say the word</title>
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    <author>nospam@example.com (Holger Schauer)</author>
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    Ah, holiday time, the time when you finally have some time on your hand. Time to hang around at beaches ... and to read some nice books. This time, I had four books with me, but found just enough time to finish two of them -- there was also swimming and sun bathing to do, mind you.&lt;br /&gt;
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The first one, &quot;The bed room secrets of the master chefs&quot; by &lt;i&gt;Irvine Welsh&lt;/i&gt; is a novel constructed around one interesting idea: what if you could transfer all your personal disasters over to the one person you&#039;re hating the most? Although it would be equally valid to say that the novel is constructed around the question what damages permanent alcohol abuse can do to your body, but something along this line is probably the connecting issue of Welsh&#039;s books anyway. What I particular liked about this book is the way in which Welsh describes the figures to encounter in British (or make that Scottish) pubs: judging from the few times I&#039;ve been to a pub in the UK it&#039;s easy to take the picture Welsh is painting for real. A note of warning: if you don&#039;t like &quot;explicit content&quot; this is not a book to your likening and if you don&#039;t happen to be a native speaker (I&#039;m German) this is not the easiest book to pick up. Funny and very recommended if you like pub novels.&lt;br /&gt;
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The second book I&#039;ve read is &quot;Gangleader for a day&quot; by &lt;i&gt;Sudhir Venkatesh&lt;/i&gt;, subtitle &quot;A rogue sociologist crosses the line&quot;. It&#039;s an autobiography and a fascinating one. Sudhir Venkatesh wanted to find out more about urban poverty in Chigaco and got to take a very close look into the ghettos of modern America. He befriends a gang leader in Chigaco and learns about how the people in the poor projects manage their lives. Although his writing is a little dry, the characters and stories are fascinating. It&#039;s of course a very particular look at american society, one which teaches you respect for the poor, but still one which doesn&#039;t increase my respect for the american society and its politicians as a whole. Well worth a read. 
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    <title>The Tender Bar</title>
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    &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=298&amp;amp;entry_id=81&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://www.amazon.com/TENDER-BAR-J-R-Moehringer/dp/1401300642/ref=sr_1_1/002-6492478-1505620?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1189631496&amp;amp;sr=8-1http://&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot;  title=&quot;null&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Tender Bar&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is a memoir written by JR Moehringer -- and one of the books I&#039;ve read during my holidays. It&#039;s really outstanding, both in the many funny anecdotes it tells, all of which are centered around the bar which was basically the authors&#039; replacement for his dad, as well as for the really joyful writing style. I only wish most blog authors, myself included, could achieve a similar ability to write so inspiring and refreshing simply by going to our favorite bar, too.  
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    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:04:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    <title>How soon is never?</title>
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    Looking for a present, I recently stumbled upon the book &quot;How soon is never?&quot; by Marc Spitz. In case you liked the band &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=109&amp;amp;entry_id=38&quot; title=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smiths&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smiths&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot;&gt;The Smiths&lt;/a&gt; some twenty years ago ... No. Let me try to put it otherwise. Around 1986 there was no one &lt;i&gt;listening&lt;/i&gt; to the Smiths, you would have been hating or loving them. So, if you happened to love the Smiths, &quot;How soon is never?&quot; is interesting as it tells the story of some ex-Smiths-fan-become-rock-journalist&#039;s life. If you like to check out what your life might have been like in case it had not provided to get over the Smiths, that is.  Or perhaps you know that already.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway. Naturally reading the book led me to dig out my old CDs (I own only &quot;Louder than bombs&quot; on vinyl. It was the first Smiths album I bought - in 1987, I think - , although that doesn&#039;t really explain it, as I think that I already owned my CD player, which btw. is still the same today). It&#039;s true what Marc writes, also in 2007 that music is still worth listening to. Similarly for my favourite other band of that time, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=110&amp;amp;entry_id=38&quot; title=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodentops&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodentops&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot;&gt;The Woodentops&lt;/a&gt; -- their live album from 1987, &quot;Live Hypnobeat Live&quot; is still unbelievable wrt. its intensity -- and speed, of course. I did some web searching and discovered that they seem to have played some concerts again, last year, surprisingly. If they were to play in Germany again (I saw them in 1987 in Oberhausen), I would probably travel quite some distance. There is even a new website (&lt;a href=&quot;http://hillview.1on.de/exit.php?url_id=111&amp;amp;entry_id=38&quot; title=&quot;http://www.fragsrus.net/badapple/woodentops.html&quot;  onmouseover=&quot;window.status=&#039;http://www.fragsrus.net/badapple/woodentops.html&#039;;return true;&quot; onmouseout=&quot;window.status=&#039;&#039;;return true;&quot; &gt;Woodentops portal&lt;/a&gt;) on which one can download MP3s of old material, including raw live material. 
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